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Comment on Feedback Loop: When Rape is Just a Game by razikain

razikain — Thu, 17 May 2012 12:24:45 +0000

@Souther Your comment kinda complements my thoughts about this subject, but in a much nicer, less asshole-ish way than mine.

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Rap Genius is Stupid* « The Black Tongue — Thu, 17 May 2012 06:11:17 +0000

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Comment on Feedback Loop: When Rape is Just a Game by Souther

Souther — Thu, 17 May 2012 03:23:35 +0000

The vast majority of victims of real rape don’t even know that this game exists and, more importantly, are probably far more concerned with changing the objective factors that actually affected their own lives and have allowed real rape to happen, not wasting their time by trying to subjectively police a misguided card game that will not sell more than a couple of thousand copies at most (and I’m being generous with that estimate).

Horrendous crimes should not be tolerated in reality, as a matter of public policy, but once you start trying to mess around with the implicit and victimless fantasies of a mere hundred of individuals….sooner or later, someone else will draw the line in a way that personally affects your own obscure interests, even those that you consider to be “safe” because they aren’t as “bad” as this card game (which is, to say the least, among the most insignificant examples of triviliazing rape that any serious research would find).

Which is where the ridiculous double standard about violence comes in, as well as the even more ridiculous idea that violence in games should face a similar treatment.

Comment on Feedback Loop: When Rape is Just a Game by Doone

Doone — Thu, 17 May 2012 03:20:49 +0000

@DarylNoir The game could just as well explored other, safer sexual fantasies without turning into a game based on how many unsuspecting women you capture and rape. This is the heart of it.

Had it been a game about women/men consensually having sex with tentacles, or seducing women with tentacles, this would be quite different and for some, even interesting. The game is about creating schemes for rape. Finding the perfect victim, stalking, scoping out good spots to abduct them, and rape them. This is pretty sick.

Comment on Feedback Loop: When Rape is Just a Game by DarylNoir

DarylNoir — Thu, 17 May 2012 01:57:09 +0000

I find myself half agreeing with this post. I agree that rape is bad and should not be supported in any form of media (though I’ve heard rape was used well in Silent Hill 2). On the other hand, I find myself unable to be as strict towards the idea of tentacle rape because it’s simply that. It’s about a squid/octopus spreading its slimy tentacles over someone’s body (usually a human female). It’s very ludicrous at heart and impossible to re-enact because those animals don’t work like that. If this game was about an actual human male raping a girl then that would be another story. Tentacle Bento isn’t like that though, nor is it explicit. The cards themselves don’t even depict any sort of rape. I suppose the implied rape is enough to stir a sick man’s mind to sexually assaulting a woman, or another man. Rape is, after all, not taken as seriously as acts of murder in our society.

I can see your point though, supporting rape in any shape and form is probably bad for us as a society. I’m torn here honestly. I feel if Tentacle Bento was a little less shameful and the goal of the game wasn’t to rape as many girls as possible I’d like it because tentacle sex (not rape) is just a ridiculous idea to me. It’d really help if the game at least TRIED to look like it was making fun of itself, but it really isn’t. Don’t get the wrong idea here though, I’m not supportive of this game, but nor am I filled with hatred towards it.

Also, what’s the problem with Cammy? Her outfit is a bit of an issue, but I never understood why she, of all fighting game characters, was such a problem. Aside from her outfit, she never seemed like a highly sexualized character to me. Last time I checked, her attitude and personality wasn’t very sexual.

Comment on Love Interest: Ikezawa Hanako, the Otaku Exotic by arcfault

arcfault — Thu, 17 May 2012 00:28:30 +0000

100% agree with James. I found her sex scene disquieting because I felt that even though she had said she was okay with it, that maybe the whole encounter was forced. It was when she explained that it was the only thing she could think to do to get Hisao to see her as someone to love and who loved him for a long time, that I bawled my eyes out. I actually thought her scars weren’t attractive, but at the end I realized that I didn’t care about them, but I cared about Hanako.

Comment on Feedback Loop: When Rape is Just a Game by AGBear

AGBear — Thu, 17 May 2012 00:15:04 +0000

@razikain
I am one of the people who disagrees with you. You are right: I’m sure a lot of people will, with good reason.

“It’s a game about rape, alright, touchy subject. But hey, wake up, man, no people would be hurt during the creation of the game. It’s virtual stuff. Fake stuff.”

“I’d love to play such a game for some laughs”

These comments suggest you don’t really understand the seriousness of rape, the way society excuses and trivialises it by blames the victims, the problem of rape culture- or worse, maybe you don’t care. That’s not being open minded; that’s being an ignorant dumbass. There’s nothing “controversial” about rape- it’s a horrendous crime, and it’s not an appropriate subject for a parody. If you find rape funny, I think that’s pretty sick.

As consumers and decent human beings, we can of course vote with our wallets, but if want to change attitudes towards rape then we have to aim a little higher than that.

Comment on Feedback Loop: When Rape is Just a Game by AGBear

AGBear — Thu, 17 May 2012 00:13:09 +0000

@razikain I am one of the people who disagrees with you. You are right: a lot of people will.

“It’s a game about rape, alright, touchy subject. But hey, wake up, man, no people would be hurt during the creation of the game. It’s virtual stuff. Fake stuff.”"I’d love to play such a game for some laughs”
These comments suggest you don’t really understand the seriousness of rape, the way society excuses and trivialises it, the problem of rape culture- or worse, don’t care. That’s not being open minded- that’s being an ignorant dumbass. There’s nothing “controversial” about rape- it’s a horrendous crime, and it’s not an appropriate subject for a parody. If you find rape funny, I think that’s pretty sick.

As consumers and decent human beings, we can of course vote with our wallets, but if want to change attitudes towards rape than we have to aim a little higher than that.

Comment on Feedback Loop: When Rape is Just a Game by TheGameCritique

TheGameCritique — Wed, 16 May 2012 20:32:20 +0000

@razikain No, you’ve just proven you are not open minded about stuff, because that would mean you considered the reality of the situation. Yes it is a game and true people offended by it will not play, buy or support it anyway as their right. But it is wrong to say that it will not affect them. The thing about culture is that you don’t have to be witness or privy to the details of what makes up that culture to be affected by it.

Rape isn’t considered a serious problem by a majority of society. They may pay lip service to it being a horrible thing, but when it comes right down to it, no society as a whole is pretty okay with it happening elsewhere. People will stand up and defend rapists who have confessed to their actions because it wasn’t “rape rape.” I am not about to list off the dozen of horrible incidents that happen every day to people and are ignored or blamed on the victim. Why? Because people have got it into their head that good people, real people don’t get raped and that those who do had it coming to them. In other word, to them it is unimportant. Then people look around for things that support their position. This is true for every way of thinking, not just the controversial. And when they see games, movies, books, tv shows, comic etc supporting that view either overtly or subtlety that thought becomes stronger in their mind causes them to search for more media, people, opinions that validate their own. When this happens with masses of people you have a cultural mindset. This affects everyone who lives in that culture. So no, even if they don’t play, buy or support it, it still affects them.

Also, because something is virtual does not mean it is fake. It exists and is real regardless of what form it is in. Or are you saying your bank account with it’s digital records of your money means the money isn’t real because it is in a virtual space.

And no, no one was hurt in the making of this game. But then that is not what people are complaining about. No one has said they did hands on research for the making of this game. They are complaining about the mindset and ideology this game promotes. They are objecting to it, utilizing their First Amendment right to do so if you will. No the game wont create a rapist, the game wont entice a person to rape, but it will make them that much more dismissive or frankly hostile of anyone who come out after being victimized.

Comment on Feedback Loop: When Rape is Just a Game by razikain

razikain — Wed, 16 May 2012 20:03:29 +0000

A lot of people will probably disagree with me, but I’ll say what I always say about controversial matters in games: It’s just a game. If it offends you, don’t buy it, don’t fund it, don’t play it. Human beings have the horrible habit of messing with other people’s matters. Why should other people be forbidden/outlawed to play a game just because some people get all pissy pissy about it? Why should developers shut down projects because they made a parody out of a controversial theme? It’s a game about rape, alright, touchy subject. But hey, wake up, man, no people would be hurt during the creation of the game. It’s virtual stuff. Fake stuff. Why should you even care? I guess people can’t stand the idea of other people making a living out of stuff they hate or disagree. I also guess people aren’t thick skinned enough for most matters.
I’m kinda open minded when it comes to gaming, so I’d love to play such a game for some laughs and to see the author’s take on the theme.